Hi Orin, Sorry if I never replied about the metal shielding around the loop (it's possible I replied directly to a post). No, it's not grounded, by design, and is not likely to be in the future so I have to reluctantly live with that. On my test antenna, I had tried a grounded sheild around the RX antenna, a small gap, and found the signal penetrated with no loss. No gap at all results in complete loss of signal. Remember, though, my circuit actually fixed the problem completely. At least, on my test sections and bench circuit. It will be tested on the actual device within the next couple of days, so stay tuned. This forum really helped me to understand the mechanisms responsible for how this loop antenna stuff works - thankyou! At this time, I believe the problem really comes down to how I was processing the received signal at the loop. Eric mentioned this too, as I recall. Unless the signal is looked at in a differential mode with current flowing, you won't see the phasing. As Eric mentioned, if the scope is in 10 Meg mode, there's no current flowing, and you can only see the common mode stuff (presumably from e-field/capacitive coupling) - and that is how I was measuring it. The original circuit suffered from the same problem. The new circuit fixed it. I thought people would be interested. gene ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu