Hi, I thought differeential is not the same as complementry. the signal swings that input buffer sees are different. Thanks Yafei --- "Brown, Mike (Austin, TX)" <mibrown@xxxxxx> wrote: > In many board geometries, the coupling between > "differential pairs" > approaches zero. You are really dealing with two > single-ended signals > that happen to be complements of each other. It is > possible to use one > side of such a "differential pair" as a single-ended > signal source. > Assuming, for the moment, that you don't care about > common-mode noise > rejection at the receiver, and that you can generate > a reference voltage > that does not introduce too much duty-cycle > distortion in the recovered > signal. It's generally not a good practice, IMO. > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:26 AM > To: weirsp@xxxxxxxxxx; gopalak@xxxxxxxxxxx; > si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: diff pair signal=20 > > > I don't know of an actual instance where anyone has > done this... > > BUT, for "other logical interfaces", one might > attach a single ended > sampler or detection circuit off one side IF (and > big IF) acceptably > isolated with high impedance resistor or whatever. > Of course, SI work > would need to be done to insure the loading would be > acceptable to the > diff pair interface. > > Aubrey Sparkman=3D20 > Enterprise Engineering Signal Integrity Team > Dell, Inc.=3D20 > Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx=3D20 > (512) 723-3592 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of steve weir > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:12 AM > To: gopalak@xxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: diff pair signal=3D20 > > > In such a situation where do you think the diff > amplifier will obtain > its=3D20 reference? > > At 07:38 PM 6/30/2004 +0530, Gopalakrishnan Sethuraj > wrote: > >Hello > > > > > >Is there any scenario where one (positive) of the > differential=20 > >pair=3D20 signal output will be connected to > single pin in LVDS or = > other > > >logical > > >interfaces ? > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks&Regards > > > >Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To unsubscribe from si-list: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > > >or to administer your membership from a web page, > go to:=3D20=20 > >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > >For help: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > > >List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > > >List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.org > > > >List archives are viewable at: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >or at our remote archives: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go > to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: =3D20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =3D20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go > to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go > to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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