Hi Chris, Did you really mean page 21? The test board consisted of only ground planes. Since this was a test board the power planes of the original stack-up were made into ground planes.=20 The stackup looks like this.=20 S G G S G S G G S G S G G S=20 =20 -Jason -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Cheng Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:51 PM To: weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx; si-list Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: ddr2 ansoft / EMC2 paper available for download Steve and Jason, Thanks for sharing. Let me clarify a question I have from the beginning. In page 21 of the presentation, it shows the signal transition consist of a microstrip line switching from one reference plane on one side (ground) to the opposite side (power). Is this really how the simulation and measurement is done ? i.e. the image return current is denied a direct return path between the top reference plane (ground) and bottom (power) ? Chris=20 ________________________________ From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of steve weir Sent: Sat 11/3/2007 12:40 PM To: si-list Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: ddr2 ansoft / EMC2 paper available for download To all that asked to see Jason Pritchard of EMC2 and Ansoft's joint paper on via stitching and EMI it is available via anonymous ( quasi ) on the ipblox FTP server: ftp.ipblox.com username: anonymous@xxxxxxxxxx password: anonymous It is located in the ftp://ftp.ipblox.com/Ansoft_first_pass_2007/ directory. regards, Steve -- Steve Weir Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 California office (408) 884-3985 Business (707) 780-1951 Fax Main office (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax Oregon office (503) 430-1065 Business (503) 430-1285 Fax http://www.teraspeed.com <http://www.teraspeed.com/>=20 This e-mail contains proprietary and confidential intellectual property of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Teraspeed(R) is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net <http://www.si-list.net/>=20 List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu