Sorry, didn't mean to imply there was no good reason for the 27-ohm solution. I'm sure a lot of design consideration went into it. It's just that RAMBUS is much different in nature than most other drivers, and in that respect is quite unique, as is its 27-ohm impedance. --Pat -----Original Message----- From: Alfredo.Moncayo@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Alfredo.Moncayo@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:59 AM To: Patrick_Carrier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; siman_74@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: Why 50 ohms Pat, The Rambus example you cite is not at all a random case. You'd be rather surprised to know exactly how that came about. In summary, it was the essence of engineering - optimization of many variables to achieve the best possible balance of electrical behavior, ease of implementation, and cost. Oh, and yes, a significant part of this optimization effort had to do with the driver. Alfredo -----Original Message----- From: Patrick_Carrier@xxxxxxxx [mailto:Patrick_Carrier@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:25 AM To: siman_74@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Why 50 ohms Mani-- PCB impedances are usually determined to closely match the output impedance of a signal driver. This eliminates reflections from occurring and distorting the transmitted signal. Also, typical PCB trace widths and dielectric heights will give you a 50-ohm line fairly easily, since impedance is a function of trace geometry. The 27 ohms for RAMBUS is kind of a random one, and mostly had to do with the fact the driver was much different than normal signal drivers. Good question! --Pat -----Original Message----- From: mani kantan [mailto:siman_74@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:52 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Why 50 ohms Hello SIexperts,=0D=0A I am a student, doing Engineering in Electri= cal.=0D=0AWhile discussing with my friend, he told me that the PCB trace im= pedance should be maintained as 50 Ohms (for differential=3D 100 and for so= me RDRAM buses 27ohms).=0D=0AI tried to find the answer for this in some of= the standard books but i could find the answer for this. Books also saying= that we should maintain 50 ohms. But i couldn't find the reason for that.= =0D=0A=0D=0ACould any body please through a light on me on this topic.This = may be a newbie question. But i thought this group is the correct place to = get my answer.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0Athanks in advance,=0D=0ASiMan=0D=0A =0A ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu