A posting with PE_BUGBEAR.B came in today on the '[SI-LIST] Re: Why we need to use "Series resistor" at Transmitter' thread, but our mail server caught it on the way in. Since I administer another freelists.org list that does not allow attachments, I was curious mostly to know how this attachment got through the reflector. A look at the headers shows that it did not go through the reflector, but straight to me! This virus has a reputation for sophisticated ways of finding email addresses to send itself to. Mike -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jon Powell Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:29 AM To: jonpowell@xxxxxxxxxxxx; cycheng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Virus Attachments? I have received another email supposedly from the SI-LIST with a very suspiciuos attachment. Are other people getting these? Attachments are supposed to be deleted by the reflector, so I think fellow Si-Listers should be very careful about this. Jon -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jon Powell Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:12 AM To: cycheng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: How do we choose the proper test load? If your goal is to use a static (or other) timing evaluator that uses models based on the time delay of the parts in the databook, then it is important that your SI measurement for test load be the same as the one used in the databook for definition of time delay through the part. What you are actually trying to do is remove the driving of the test load from the equation to avoid double counting of that part of the delay. jon -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of C.Y. Cheng Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:08 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] How do we choose the proper test load? Dear list members, I am confusing how to choose a proper test load for the timing evaluation. In the book��High- speed digital system design�� page 204. There is an example: �� An output buffer with an edge speed of 300ps is driving a transmission line with a C11 of 2.5pF/inch. And propagation delay of 150ps/in., the edge would encompass 2 in. or 5pF. Subsequently, a good load in this case would be 5pF.�� In this case, does the loading of receiver need to be considered to evaluate the Tco if the trace length less than 2 inches? This often asked by the logic designer. A capacitor often set at output pin to extract timing for static timing analysis. The trace length in this case may vary from 0.5 inch to 6 inches or more. How do we choose the test load to cover all the case? ================================= C.Y. Cheng System Design Engineer Realtek Semiconductor Corp. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu