Thanks Fabrizio for the info. Zanella, Fabrizio wrote: Adulrahman, check out the following web site: http://www.stateye.org/[1] It'sa free tool available for channel simulations. The Matlab simulation toolI've used was provided by a chip vendor, I know of at least 3 vendors whohave created such tools. Regards, Fabrizio -----Original Message----- From: Abdulrahman Rafiq [mailto:arafiq@xxxxxxxxx[2]] Sent: Tuesday, April 05,2005 3:53 PM To: Zanella, Fabrizio Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Using Matlab forSERDES simulations Fabrizio, Do you know any sample Matlab simulation for SerDes? Thanks, Abdulrahman Rafiq Cisco Systems, Inc Zanella, Fabrizio wrote:In the past couple of years, several vendors have moved from Hspice to Matlab as the tool of choice for simulations of their SERDES devices. With the Matlab tool it's possible to run simulations of channels including decision feedback equalization (DFE), which is present in the latest SERDES devices to minimize reflections and provide continuous equalization while traffic is running. Using Matlab as a channel simulator also provides BER contour plots, bathtub curves, etc. The required models for the channels are S-parameter files in Touchstone format. The SERDES models are embedded in thesimulator, so no models are provided to the customer. What are the thoughts of the SI community on where this trend is going? Will EDA tool vendors begin to integrate Matlab into their simulators? And how does this impact the effort to create macromodels for SERDES devices? Thanks and regards, Fabrizio Zanella Enterasys Networks ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3] with 'unsubscribe'in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a webpage, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list[4] For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[5] with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ[6] List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org[7] List archivesare viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list[8] or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages[9] Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu[10] -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- || Abdulrahman Rafiq :|: :|: Hardware/IO-Interconnect Modeling Engineer :|||::|||: DSW-Interconnect and Packaging .:|||||||:...:|||||||:. Direct: (408) 527-5540 C i s c o S y s t e m s Fax : (408) 526-6603 www.cisco.com[11]email : arafiq@xxxxxxxxx[12] 800-250-4800 epage : [out of order] URL1 : http://wwwin-sipd.cisco.com[13] URL2 : http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/~arafiq[14] URL3 : http://www.eigroup.org/ibis/[15]-------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- --- Links --- 1 http://www.stateye.org/ 2 mailto:arafiq@xxxxxxxxx 3 mailto:si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 4 //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list 5 mailto:si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 6 http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ 7 http://www.si-list.org 8 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list 9 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages 10 http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu 11 http://www.cisco.com 12 mailto:arafiq@xxxxxxxxx 13 http://wwwin-sipd.cisco.com 14 http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/~arafiq 15 http://www.eigroup.org/ibis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu