In the past couple of years, several vendors have moved from Hspice to Matlab as the tool of choice for simulations of their SERDES devices. With the Matlab tool it's possible to run simulations of channels including decision feedback equalization (DFE), which is present in the latest SERDES devices to minimize reflections and provide continuous equalization while traffic is running. Using Matlab as a channel simulator also provides BER contour plots, bathtub curves, etc. The required models for the channels are S-parameter files in Touchstone format. The SERDES models are embedded in the simulator, so no models are provided to the customer. What are the thoughts of the SI community on where this trend is going? Will EDA tool vendors begin to integrate Matlab into their simulators? And how does this impact the effort to create macromodels for SERDES devices? Thanks and regards, Fabrizio Zanella Enterasys Networks ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu