[SI-LIST] Re: Trace impedance

  • From: "Grasso, Charles" <Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <dave.instone@xxxxxxxxxx>, <doug@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:04:34 -0700

Dave - Can you please send me the jpeg?
Polar's Si6000 does have a slight deficiency=20
(now corrected in their 8000/9000 series) in that
it cannot properly solve for multilayered dielectrics (such
as solder mask/prepreg).=20

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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Trace impedance

Actually Doug unless Polars Si6000 impedance calculator is wrong the=20
answer is yes.
trace width 11.97/12.97 mils, separation 5.323 mils, 1.2 mil thick, 16=20
mils above plane, Er 4.2
Differential impedance 100 ohms, Z odd 50, Z even 99.99 Zcommon 50
I've attached a jpeg screenshot,  which the list will strip off, but you

should get it.
Dave Instone
Oxford Semiconductor Ltd
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Oxon ox14 4sh
UK
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Doug Brooks wrote:
> Actually, the answer is no.
>
> Zdiff =3D 2*Zo(1 - k)
> Zcommon =3D .5 * Zo(1 + k)
>
> where k is a factor related to the coupling between the traces (and=20
> whose limits are between 0 and 1.0).
>
> Single-ended impedance and common mode impedance of a differential=20
> pair have different meanings.
>
> Doug Brooks
>
>
>
>
> At 06:48 AM 11/21/2006, you wrote:
>  =20
>> Hello All,
>>                    One basic question on differential pair trace=20
>> impedance. Is it possible that a differential pair with 100 ohm=20
>> differential impedance will have 50 ohm common mode impedance? Are=20
>> the single-ended and common mode impedances of a differential pair=20
>> has the same meaning?
>> Thanks and advance,
>> shekh
>>
>>
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