Given 10% to 90% risetime, the 3dB BW is 0.35/Tr. For 20% to 80% risetime (as found on many logic datasheets), the correct formula is BW = 0.22/Tr. These use the assumption that a single pole dominates the channel response. Orin -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yejun Fu Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:22 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] TDR- rise time-channel bandwidth and speed Seems the more you want to dig and clear the more confuse you will have. Some one tells me the more sharp rise time the better, it offers more details that a lower rise time can't provide. someone says they prefer to have filters to make a lower rise time to do TDR for a differential channel. I want to know what is the right relation between the speed of signal running through the channel and the rise time and the bandwidth related to rise time and channel. Thanks Johnny ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu