Hi Fabrizio, You may just use vss as the reference node for the S element S1, like S1 txp txn rxp rxn vss mname=s_model This makes vss the return node for S1 at both driver and receiver end. Hope this answers your question, Jinghua Zanella, Fabrizio wrote: >I'm using a Touchstone .s4p file (4 port S-parameter) as my channel in a >backplane serdes simulation in Hspice. There's no ground reference for >the touchstone file; my simulation deck basically looks like this: > > >Xdriver inp inn vcc vss txp txn tx_model $ plus pre-emphasis settings > >S1 txp txn rxp rxn mname=s_model > >Xreceiver rxp rxn vcc vss input_model > > > >My question is does it make sense to keep the same return node, vss, for >the driver and receiver circuits or should I add in LCR circuitry to >account for card1-connector-backplane-connector-card2 path it takes? > > > >Thanks and regards, > >Fabrizio Zanella > >Signal Integrity > >Enterasys Networks > >Andover, MA > >Phone: 978-684-1340 > >fzanella@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > >List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu