Dear Lars, I cannot agree with you. I worked at Ansoft for a while and I know by experience that Application Engineers are really motivated to take care of the customer problems. For what I remember .....taking care about the accuracy of the simulation results and customer satisfaction is one of the key of Ansoft AE's attitude. Regards Giancarlo ________________________________ Da: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx per conto di Lars Juul Inviato: mar 29/07/2008 13.31 A: Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oggetto: [SI-LIST] Re: Ansoft License issue Hi Aubrey, You're not the only one disappointed with the way Ansoft is using their market leading position. They have done a splendid marketing job, dazzling many people building up new SI departments with the niftyness of their GUI and an admittedly great layout import functionality (ansoft links). However, I could do with a program that converged more often, produced more physical results and wasn't as much of a memory hog. I also never saw any of their application engineers really tackling the question of whether the accuracy their tools provide, is suitable for the business you're in. 20ps difference in a 10Gb/s eye opening simulated vs. measured is maybe not a big deal for some companies, but for optical communication products, for instance, this is not nearly enough. This issue was carefully sidestepped in the seminar I attended. Morale: Always test drive more products than one, and prioritize accuracy over GUI niceness (unless the gui in question is a complete dog, usabilitywise) 2008/7/28 <Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx> > I would like to get the opinion of the SI community on something that > bothers me. My Ansoft sales rep says no one else is complaining. > > Background: > We have had a copy of HFSS, Q3D, and SI2d for many years. > HFSS is an excellent tool for full 3d solutions in the (high) frequency > domain (no field solution at DC) and produces S-parameter data. > Q3d is a full 3d tool that, historically, produces an RLGC model, is > good for electrically short (single phase) structures and can solve for > a DC field solution. > SI2d is a good solver for 2d cross-sections and can show you impedance, > inductance, etc VS frequency. > > For what it's worth, My technical support is excellent; both of the > local tech support engineers have worked both sides of the fence and are > very good. > > The issue: > For as long as I can remember, we have been able to use each of the 3 > different tools independently. IE, one person using HFSS to find a via > resonance, another engineer doing a VR solution in Q3d, and another > building interconnect models in SI2D. Up to 3 people working at the > same time. When we moved to Q3d version 8, SI2d was changed to Q2d to > use a common user interface. > > The problem: > We can no longer use the 2d and 3d solvers at the same time. The net > effect to me is that we lost a license for the questionable improvement > of a common interface. I was happy with the old interface and am not > happy that our team can no longer use two very different solvers at the > same time. My question to Ansoft sales was: Should I expect to see > another license reduction if they move HFSS to that common interface? > > If you think I am being un-reasonable, please email me on why. If you > think Ansoft is not doing the right thing, please complain to Ansoft and > copy me. > > Thanks, > Aubrey Sparkman > Enterprise Engineering Signal Integrity Team Dell, Inc. > Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx > (512) 723-3592 > "The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has > taken place." -- George Bernard Shaw > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net <http://www.si-list.net/> > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net <http://www.si-list.net/> List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu