Anbazhagan, From the pictures they used a 3m chamber. The key point in my mind is that identical measurements in a Fully Anechoic Chamber configuration were up to 7.3dB lower than measurements made in the configuration specified by the radiated-emission standards. So if I was developing a product, and only had a 3m Fully Anechoic Chamber for my radiated-emissions measurements, I'd go for > 19dB margin against the test limits after correcting for distance: * 7dB for Fully Anechoic Chamber to Semianechoic Chamber correlation. * 9dB for Vertical Correction Factor (3m Semianechoic Chamber to 10m Semianechoic Chamber correlation). * > 3dB for unit-to-unit variations, to meet the 80-80 Rule, CISPR 22 section 7.2.3 "80% confidence that 80% of the type is below the limit". John Barnes dBi Corporation http://www.dbicorporation.com/ AAnbazhagan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Dear Mr. Barnes, > > What was the test distance they used for the chamber measurements? > Was it 3m or 10m? If 3m, was the limits set as 40dBµV/m and 47dBµV/m or 30 > dbµV/m... > > Thanks, > Anbazhagan > > > John Barnes > <jrbarnes@xxxxxxxx To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, > AAnbazhagan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > m> cc: > Sent by: Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: > Question on radiation limits > si-list-bounce@fre > elists.org > > > 07/10/2002 06:45 > PM > Please respond to > jrbarnes > > > > Anbazhagan, > Just last night I ran across an article > Kiemel, Greg, "Comparing Fully Anechoic Chambers to Semianechoic > Limits," Compliance Engineering, vol. 19 no. 3, pp. 60-65, 2002 > Annual Reference Guide. > > They measured a personal computer system and a comb generator in a > Semianechoic Chamber (SAC) that meets the volumetric site attenuation > (VSA) requirements of ANSI C63.4. Then they put ferrite tiles with > matched absorbers on the floor to convert the chamber to a Fully > Anechoic Chamber (FAC), without changing anything else in the test > setup, and repeated the measurements. They discovered that the FAC > measurements were up to 7.3dB lower than the corresponding SAC > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > measurements... > > John Barnes > dBi Corporation > > http://www.dbicorporation.com/ > > AAnbazhagan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Though it is not strictly related to signal integrity, I have a ques= > > tion > > on the radiation limits set by the CISPR (Eurpoean emission standard, > > EN55022 for emission and EN55024 for immunity). > > > > We have a got a lab in which we did the radation test in a fully anecho= > > ic > > chamber at 3 m distance (Antenna to EUT horizontal distance) to get the= > > CE > > certification. The limit was set as 40.35 dB=B5V/m from 30MHz to 230MHz= > > and > > 47.35 dB=B5V/m from 230 to 1GHz. > > > > The same test was conducted in another lab located at a different count= > > ry. > > There they had set the limit as 30 dB=B5V/m and 37dB=B5V/m and the boar= > > d failed > > with that limits. > > > > Which one of the limit is correct? It was argued that the 40dB=B5V/m li= > > mit > > for 3m distance is valid only for OATS and not for anechoic chambers. > > > > Can someone clarify it. > > > > Thanks > > Anbazhagan. > > > > = > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu