[SI-LIST] Re: Lout of VRM

  • From: "sogo_hsu" <sghsu55@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:29:19 -0000

Istvan,

  Thank you for your response. I know the effect of violation in 
target impedance. However, actually, it is hard to find a proper 
inductor to match the specification of today's PDS. In contrast, If I 
used a shorted inductor instead of 1 uH, will VRM and/or PDS work 
properly?

Best regards,
 
--- In si-list@xxxx, "istvan novak" <istvan.novak@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Sogo,
> 
> If you dont change anything else, only the inductor will be of 
> ten times lower value, the ripple current through the inductor 
> will be ten times higher.  If otherwise the 1uH inductor was 
> properly designed for the application, the ten times higher 
> ripple current will most probably drive its core to saturation
> or at least the losses will increase significantly.  If you see 
> a 1kHz peak in the impedance profile with 1uH output
> inductor, the probable cause is a suboptimal control loop.
> 
> regards
> 
> Istvan Novak
> SUN Microsystems
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "sogo_hsu" <sghsu55@xxxx>
> To: <si-list@xxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:35 AM
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Lout of VRM
> 
> 
> > 
> > Hi SI Gurus,
> >   Firstly, I have got lots of help from this forum; I have to say 
> > thank you to all give me advises in advance. Recently, I had done 
> > several simulation works regarding PDS design. We computed the 
> > impedance of PDS including the model of VRM. Roughly said, the 
VRM is 
> > almost three-phase type and with 1uH inductor type we adopted. 
That 
> > is said, the equivalent output inductance is 0.333uH. The 
simulation 
> > result indicated the impedance of PDS has a peak violates the 
> > specification of target impedance at about 1 kHz. We proposed 
> > dwindling the inductor from 1 uH to about 100 nH to match the 
> > specification of target impedance. However, it is hard to find 
the 
> > proper component to match the requirement. I have some questions 
> > regarding the simulation work.
> > (1) What=A1=A6s the role of output inductor in VRM? It seems 
lower 
> > output inductor of VRM makes up lower impedance of PDS. So, 
what=A1=A6s 
> > the aftereffect if a low output inductor, even we shorten the 
output 
> > inductor, was adopted?
> > (2) If we ignore the violation at about 1KHz due to the 
> > =A1=A5high=A1=A6 inductor, what=A1=A6s happen in PDS design? 
> > Thank you for your helps in advance.
> > Best regards,
> > Sogo Hsu
> > 
> > 
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