Istvan, Thank you for your response. I know the effect of violation in target impedance. However, actually, it is hard to find a proper inductor to match the specification of today's PDS. In contrast, If I used a shorted inductor instead of 1 uH, will VRM and/or PDS work properly? Best regards, --- In si-list@xxxx, "istvan novak" <istvan.novak@xxxx> wrote: > > Sogo, > > If you dont change anything else, only the inductor will be of > ten times lower value, the ripple current through the inductor > will be ten times higher. If otherwise the 1uH inductor was > properly designed for the application, the ten times higher > ripple current will most probably drive its core to saturation > or at least the losses will increase significantly. If you see > a 1kHz peak in the impedance profile with 1uH output > inductor, the probable cause is a suboptimal control loop. > > regards > > Istvan Novak > SUN Microsystems > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sogo_hsu" <sghsu55@xxxx> > To: <si-list@xxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:35 AM > Subject: [SI-LIST] Lout of VRM > > > > > > Hi SI Gurus, > > Firstly, I have got lots of help from this forum; I have to say > > thank you to all give me advises in advance. Recently, I had done > > several simulation works regarding PDS design. We computed the > > impedance of PDS including the model of VRM. Roughly said, the VRM is > > almost three-phase type and with 1uH inductor type we adopted. That > > is said, the equivalent output inductance is 0.333uH. The simulation > > result indicated the impedance of PDS has a peak violates the > > specification of target impedance at about 1 kHz. We proposed > > dwindling the inductor from 1 uH to about 100 nH to match the > > specification of target impedance. However, it is hard to find the > > proper component to match the requirement. I have some questions > > regarding the simulation work. > > (1) What=A1=A6s the role of output inductor in VRM? It seems lower > > output inductor of VRM makes up lower impedance of PDS. So, what=A1=A6s > > the aftereffect if a low output inductor, even we shorten the output > > inductor, was adopted? > > (2) If we ignore the violation at about 1KHz due to the > > =A1=A5high=A1=A6 inductor, what=A1=A6s happen in PDS design? > > Thank you for your helps in advance. > > Best regards, > > Sogo Hsu > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu