Agreed. Although, there is a great difference between mentoring a newcomer, and a newcomer getting on the public address system of a several thousand person company and asking how to plot a current in HSPICE. How many times would that behavior be tolerated before the newbie was escorted out the door? (Or, how many times would the request need to be answered for the PA system to become clogged with such requests.) Furthermore, it would be derelict of duty for a mentor to deprive his/her charge of the opportunity to learn to help themselves. A good mentor knows it?s often necessary to back off and let the newcomer struggle with a problem. It seems that is exactly what Ed was trying to do. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Bader Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:21 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Hspice : Newbie question I agree with this poster's comments. I have spent 10 seconds reading the original question and 4 minutes reading all the flaming and commentary about it. If you don't want to contribute on this list to the development of lesser experienced engineers, that is your prerogative. However if you are a member of the IEEE, you have attested to the code of ethics which can be found at http://www.ieee.org/portal/index.jsp?pageID=corp_level1&path=about/whatis&fil ðo J$ XÖÿ¿?Ñ@D×ÿ¿??e=code.xml&xsl=generic.xsl[1] and which reads in part: "We ... agree: "5. to improve the understanding of technology, its appropriate application, and potential consequences;" "10. to assist colleagues and co-workers in their professional development and to support them in following this code of ethics." If a posting is clearly off topic, it is appropriate for the moderator to refer the poster to the FAQs for the list. My advice to those of you who feel you are above answering such questions is to learn to be more tolerant of others and if you don't want to assist the poster, delete their message from your folder and move on. You will have more time to dwell on your own ego, and the rest of the world will be a better place. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu