Some people on this list would do well to be more tolerant and resist the temptation to show-off needlessly. Ludvik Kindl -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Finlayson Joe-G3162C Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:46 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Hspice : Newbie question I am primarily a lurker and find much of the information posted on this list very useful. I am also subscribed to many other lists where my background allows me to be more interactive. I am a bit surprised at the tone taken when someone of lesser experience in a particular area asks a valid question that seems to be well within the scope of this list. I just went to the http://www.si-list.org/ and read the following: "si-list currently has over 3500 subscribers from around the world. The members range from experts in the field in both industry and academia to students and others interested in learning about the subject." And "...Now almost 11 years later we have about 3500 subscribers to si-list. They range from students just getting their feet wet in engineering to world renown experts in the field. They hail from both industry and academia in just about every country in the world that is involved in signal integrity related endeavors." And "The original precept for si-list was to provide a forum for the exchange of technical conversation related to Signal Integrity and related fields. Over the years we have endeavored to keep the majority of the list traffic on the technical level and to discourage the use of the forum for advertising and head-hunting. To that end I think we have been remarkably successful." Can someone explain to me, maybe the list administrator, why a technical question such as the one posed is not the level of topic that should be posted on the si-list? Responses such as I have just seen tells the up-and-coming SI engineers to take a back seat and leave the questions posed on this list to the professionals. Thx, Joe Finlayson Motorola -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Pratt Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:27 AM To: esayre@xxxxxxxx; sivakumar_skm@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Hspice : Newbie question I couldn't agree with Ed more. I don't have time to read through dozens of posting by lazy college students while waiting for a rare legitimate posting. It may only take less than a minute to be interrupted, read enough to understand that the posting is from someone too LAZY TO READ THE HSPICE USER'S MANUAL, then pick up the previous thread. But, multiply that 1 minute by everyone on this list, and it adds up to a large amount of wasted time. Participants posting question easily answered with a trivial amount of self-initiative should be blocked from using the list. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of giancarlo guida Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:59 AM To: esayre@xxxxxxxx; sivakumar_skm@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Hspice : Newbie question Hi all, I think ..this is enough... I would say that no one should believe to have the right to decide what should and what should'nt post in this list that I suppose to a pubblic and free list... If one do not consider a question important why loose time just top answer that the question is not important... Giancarlo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Edward P. Sayre" <esayre@xxxxxxxx> To: <sivakumar_skm@xxxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:52 PM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Hspice : Newbie question Siva: Please put these kind of questions to your HSPICE FAE. This is not the level of topic that should be posted in the si-list. ed At 05:55 AM 10/1/2004 -0700, Siva kumar wrote: >Hi Gurus, > I am a new user to Hspice . I have a question >on using the IBIS model in Hspice. From the documents >i understood that the Hspice can directly take the >IBIS models and I did some simulations also. > > (I) I1 > Driver -----------------------> Receiver1 > | > | I2 > |------------> Receiver 2 > >In above shown topology i want to measure the total >current taken by the two receivers (I, I1 and I2) , >using the IBIS model. > Is it possible?. Could anybody throw light on this >topic? > > >Regards, >siva > > > > > >_______________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. 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