Hello, Farooq Bhatti Please try this script in Hspice to extract S-parameter. It's more accurate than Cadence. cc.s4p can be any channel. W-element or S-parameter. *Channel .option acct post list pi1 txop 0 dc=0 ac=0.5 Z0=50 port=1 pi2 txon 0 dc=0 ac=0.5 Z0=50 port=2 po1 rxip 0 dc=0 ac=0 Z0=50 port=3 po2 rxin 0 dc=0 ac=0 Z0=50 port=4 .opt post .AC Lin 2001 0 20G .lin sparcalc=1 format=touchstone Scc txop txon rxip rxin 0 mname=cc .MODEL cc S N=4 TSTONEFILE="cc.s4p" .end Best Regards, Lurker Li Tel: 86-21-58966996-1021 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Istvan Novak Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:16 AM To: Farooq Bhatti Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: How to use s-parameter generated from specctra-quest in HSPICE When you plot the S parameters you plug into HSPICE, does it make sense, or the S parameter data already shows the large reflection? Regards, Istvan Farooq Bhatti wrote: > First thing that we checked. > Then we had the Cadence support generate it for us to be sure. > > Sincerely, > Farooq Bhatti > Whizz Systems Inc. > 408-980-0400 x 105 > 408-482-2315 (cell) > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended = > recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or = > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy = > all copies of the original message. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Istvan Novak [mailto:istvan.novak@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:43 PM > To: Farooq Bhatti > Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] How to use s-parameter generated from = > specctra-quest in HSPICE > > Farooq, > > First I would check the port assignment (port numbering) to make sure=20 > that the diff pair is hooked up the same way in the HSPICE simulation=20 > that was assumed in S-parameter extraction. > > Regards, > Istvan > > > Farooq Bhatti wrote: > >> Hi All: >> >> I am facing issues with the s-parameter file generated from = >> > spectra-quest for interconnects for one diff pair to > be > >> used for PCIe Gen2 simulation in HSPICE. I am getting the entire = >> > signal reflected back from the point where > >> s-parameter starts.=20 >> >> I am using spectra-quest to extract the routed nets in sigxp then = >> > generate the s-parameter from sigxp. > >> Then using that s-parameter in HSPICE net list to do the simulation. >> Has any one come across same or similar issues? OR know of the correct = >> > procedure to do this? > >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Sincerely, >> Farooq Bhatti >> Whizz Systems Inc. >> 408-980-0400 x 105 >> 408-482-2315 (cell) >> NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended = >> > recipient(s) and may contain confidential and > >> privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or = >> > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the > >> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and = >> > destroy all copies of the original message. > >> =20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu