[SI-LIST] Re: High speed serial links over copper cables

  • From: Hassan O. Ali <hassan@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <jhasson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Neo <neoflash2008@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:33:11 -0400

 
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Hi Han, 

        The equalizers are usually placed at the cable ends so that they
have an easy access to power supply. 

        Best regards. 

        Hassan.
 On Tue 08/11/09 9:15 PM , Neo neoflash2008@xxxxxxxxx sent:
  Hi Hassan: 
 For those active cables, where the equalizer usually sitting? 
 In the middle of the cable, or in the both ends of the cable? 
 Regards,Han 
 --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Hassan O. Ali  wrote: 
 From: Hassan O. Ali  
 Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: High speed serial links over copper cables 
 To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [3], jhasson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [4] 
 Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 3:23 PM 
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 JF, 
 ??? Three points: 
 ??? 1. You can find several twinaxial cable offerings that are
lighter 
 than Belden 1694A coaxial cable and have them operate at 2.5Gbps 
 differentially over a 10m length. Some popular bulk twinaxial cable 
 makers: Amphenol Spectra-Strip, WL Gore, Madison Cable, and Leoni.
For 
 some standard connectors, you can also obtain cable assemblies from 
 such companies as Amphenol, Molex, Tyco Electronics, WL Gore, and 
 Leoni. 
 ??? 2. Most off-the-shelf PHYs designed to operate serial links 
 differentially e.g. for XAUI, can also work in single-ended format 
 e.g. using only the positive terminal and terminating the negative 
 terminal with a 50-ohm load. The PHYs do not have to be designed for

 SMPTE. 
 ??? 3. If the PHY of your interest cannot support the 10-meter cable

 length, you can use several off-the-shelf cable equalizers on your 
 board or use active (equalized) cables. 
 ??? If you need more info on the above, please contact me directly. 
 ??? Best regards. 
 ??? Hassan. 
 On Mon 07/20/09 2:05 AM , jhasson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [5] sent: 
 ? Hi, 
 I have been looking at the possibility of setting up a high speed 
 (about 
 2.5Gbit/s) serial link over a 10 m copper cable. In order to reduce 
 weight 
 and number of cables, a focus was given to single ended options. The

 standard that comes up is SMPTE424M running at up to 2.97Gbit/s over

 a 
 long (much more than 10 m) 1694A belden coaxial cable. I would like 
 to be 
 able to use the physical layer but not to transmit video. Is there a

 drawback in using chips for SPMTE424M while for instance using the 
 8B/10B 
 encoding instead of SMPTE scrambling ? I would not encounter the 
 pathological data (the standard DC blocking capacitor could be 
 reconsidered) then but are there any tricks to consider that would 
 impact 
 the link ? As a more general question, how come only video field 
 seems to 
 have developped high speed single ended video transmission ? 
 Best regards, 
 JF 
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