[SI-LIST] Re: Discussion: What is the extra attenuation if a 50ohm source interfacing a 75ohm cable which terminated with 75ohm?

  • From: Rohit MISHRA <rohit.mishra@xxxxxx>
  • To: "zhenwwan@xxxxxxxxx" <zhenwwan@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:02:25 +0800

Hello Jason,

I can understand your dilemma but you shouldn't treat source output impedance 
as a transmission line, due to its small size, it acts as a lumped element. 

When source launch a signal into transmission line (75 Ohm), It will see 
transmission line as a resistive load and thus launch voltage will be decided 
by voltage divider between source o/p impedance and transmission line 
characteristics impedance and as Steve pointed out loss will be only -4.44dB.

If transmission line wouldn't have terminated with 75 Ohm in your case then 
reflected wave would have seen o/p impedance of source as a load and reflected 
coefficient for reflected wave would be 50-75/125 = 0.2 i.e. 20 % of reflected 
wave energy would have re-reflected.

Hope that helps.

Rgds,
Rohit Mishra
        

 

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:36 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Discussion: What is the extra attenuation if a 50ohm 
source interfacing a 75ohm cable which terminated with 75ohm?

Error in description about calculation: the attenuation = 
20lg(0.5)-20lg(0.4)=(-6db)-(-7.95db)=-1.95db. Sorry for inconvenience.

BR
Zhenwei(Jason) Wang
Cisco Systems (Shanghai) Video Technology Co., Ltd.


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Sent: 2012年6月7日 16:42
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Discussion: What is the extra attenuation if a 50ohm source 
interfacing a 75ohm cable which terminated with 75ohm?

Hi experts,
        Today I have a dicussion with my colleague. The topic is What is the 
extra attenuation if a 50ohm source interfacing a 75ohm cable which terminated 
with 75ohm resistor? Just like that when using a 75ohm cable connected to a 
50ohm output instrument.
        The scenario is:
        Source(50ohm resistor)===>PointA===75ohm cable===>PointB
        
||
        
||(75ohme resistor)
                                                GND 

        My opinion: Based neglecting the multi-refection, there will be 
refection factor at pointA, which is 0.2. So 80% energy was launched into 75ohm 
cable. Then the voltage at pointB is Vin*0.8/2=Vin*0.4. But it should be 
0.5*Vin at pointB. So the extra attenuation is 0.5-0.4=0.1==>-20db. 
        Am I right?


BR
Zhenwei(Jason) Wang
Cisco Systems (Shanghai) Video Technology Co., Ltd.
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