[SI-LIST] Re: Discussion: What is the extra attenuation if a 50ohm source interfacing a 75ohm cable which terminated with 75ohm?

  • From: "Grasso, Charles" <Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx" <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>, "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:14:11 +0000

Doesn't it boil down to reflection coefficient and then return loss and
mismatch loss? So the reflection coefficient will be 0.2 or about -14dB
of S11. The S21 or mismatch loss or extra attenuation at the load
will be 0.2dB.

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From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of steve weir
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 4:05 AM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Discussion: What is the extra attenuation if a 50ohm 
source interfacing a 75ohm cable which terminated with 75ohm?

No, assuming ideal components PointA acts like a simple divider:  0.6V/V 
= -4.44dB versus a zero impedance voltage source directly driving the 
cable.  Were the cable lossless that wavefront would travel a cable of 
arbitrary length.  The terminator at Point B if perfectly matched, makes 
the cable look like it goes on forever:  In the ideal case there is no 
attenuation and no reflection at PointB.

Steve.

On 6/7/2012 1:41 AM, Zhenwei Wang (zhenwwan) wrote:
> Hi experts,
>       Today I have a dicussion with my colleague. The topic is What is
> the extra attenuation if a 50ohm source interfacing a 75ohm cable which
> terminated with 75ohm resistor? Just like that when using a 75ohm cable
> connected to a 50ohm output instrument.
>       The scenario is:
>       Source(50ohm resistor)===>PointA===75ohm cable===>PointB
>       
> ||
>       
> ||(75ohme resistor)
>                                                  GND
>
>       My opinion: Based neglecting the multi-refection, there will be
> refection factor at pointA, which is 0.2. So 80% energy was launched
> into 75ohm cable. Then the voltage at pointB is Vin*0.8/2=Vin*0.4. But
> it should be 0.5*Vin at pointB. So the extra attenuation is
> 0.5-0.4=0.1==>-20db.
>       Am I right?
>
>
> BR
> Zhenwei(Jason) Wang
> Cisco Systems (Shanghai) Video Technology Co., Ltd.
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