Crystal Effective Series Resistance in the operating region between series resonance and Anti-resonance is governed by the following. Re =3D R1 ((CL+Co)/CL)2 Re ESR R1 Motional arm resistance CL Capacitive Load Co Crystal Mounting Electrode Capacitance. Typical Values for your range of crystal operating on the first overtone are. R1 100 ohm Co 4pf CL Is what load is presented to crystal. Determines frequency of operation. The best way is to get in touch with a crystal builder and get some specific specs. These parameters can change greatly. Try www.conwin.com Connor-Winfield Corp. Merrick -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ashish PANPALIA Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 5:22 AM To: reanderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Crystal datasheet!! Thank you Ray, The sites are really useful. But I have one query regarding crystal=20 model. For simulation of crystal oscillator I need the crystal model.=20 Though L and C value I can estimate based on my requirement what should=20 be the range of R value for crystal in my application? regards, Ashish Ray Anderson wrote: > There is a ton of data on modeling quartz crystals available from many > sources. Check out the following URL's to get started: >=20 > http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/2127 > http://moon.pr.erau.edu/~lyallj/ee412/xtal_imp.html > http://www.circuitcellar.com/pastissues/articles/bujanos91/Bujanos-91.pd f > http://www.industrycommunity.com/myforum/moazzam_mahmood/messages/340.ht ml > http://www.hy-q.com.au/crystals/crystals-theory.htm > http://www.foxonline.com/tech3031.htm >=20 > They aren't data sheets (which usually do not contain the kind of info > you are after), but are app-notes and tutorials on the topic. >=20 >=20 > -Ray Anderson > Senior Signal Integrity Staff Engineer > Xilinx Inc. >=20 >=20 > Ashish PANPALIA wrote: >=20 >=20 >>Hello, >>I want to design a crystal oscillator of range 4MHz-8MHz. Can anybody=20 >>provide me with the 4MHz-8MHz crystal datasheet with the help of which I=20 >>can model the crystal in my simulations. >> >>regards, >>Ashish >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>To unsubscribe from si-list: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >>or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >>//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >>For help: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >>List FAQ wiki page is located at: >> http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >> >>List technical documents are available at: >> http://www.si-list.org >> >>List archives are viewable at: =20 >> //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >>or at our remote archives: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >>Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >>=20 >> >> >>=20 >> >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >=20 > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >=20 > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >=20 > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >=20 > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org >=20 > List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu