Hear Hear! Inquring minds want to know. Can you say what kind of research you're doing?? Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Pager/Short Message: 3032042974@xxxxxxxx Email: charles.grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Email Alternate: chasgrasso@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ed Sayre III Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:17 PM To: doug@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Copper atom density Doug, I you are dealing with single crystalline copper then the volume is an=20 algebraic expression based on the atomic unit cell. This is derived from=20 the crystal orientation (ie face centered cubic, body centered cubic,=20 Diamond...etc) The thing is that copper is not single crystalline in a typical=20 conductor, so I would guess that the density is a bit lower. I would=20 recommend you pull out the old "CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics". I=20 think this will answer all your questions. Also the text by "Ramo,=20 Whinnery and Van Duzer" may also have some material constants as applied=20 to Electromagnetics I am curious, why do you need this??? Critical currents density? Regards -Ed At 12:01 PM 11/16/2005 -0800, Doug Brooks wrote: >I am interested in determining the density of copper atoms per unit >cross sectional area, i.e. the average number of atoms at the cross >sectional area of a conductor. >It is given by various sources that the volumetric density of copper is >between >8.37 10^28 and >8.5 10^28 atoms/meter^3 > >Is it as simple as taking the 2/3 root of this number (19.3 >10^18/meter^2)? That seems logical but not necessarily realistic. I >think there is a better answer but I'm not sure how to approach it. > >Doug Brooks > >_______________________________________________________________________ _____- >Check out UltraCAD's new presentation videos and new skin effect >calculator at http://www.ultracad.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > >List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > >!DSPAM:437b85ea275079249497117! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu