Hello, We are simulating an RF bandpass filter using both Mentor Graphics (MG) and AWR Microwave Office. The layout implements a coplanar waveguide with a ground plane 10 mils beneath it. In MG we are using a finite ground plane, and we had connected an advanced extension port pair to the signal (+1) and ground (-1). When we simulated the filter response in MG 3-D EM tools, we got very poor results, and I now believe it is because we did not connect ports to the adjacent ground planes surrounding our signal on the top routing level. We are currently attempting to compare the results of MG and AWR for this circuit, and to correct our port connections, but it has been difficult to find any examples of how this should be set up. Is there anyone in this group who has either set up such a port structure or knows how to do so that could get back to me? It may be that it is as simple as connecting more of the (-1) advanced extension ports; however, the simulation takes many many days, so any help getting it right the first time would be appreciated. Thanks, Darren O'Connor Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics (303)492-7613 ................................................... ... . .. ........................................ ..... ..... . .... .................,,,:,,IDNDD88DDND88,,...,.................. ..............,~=~:8DD?=?I$$7:OOOOOO888D7,,,,..... . .. ...........,~+I~8D$=?I+==?==888O8888OO8O888+,,:............. .........,+?7=?+=+?+7=OOO888OOOO88OOOOOOO8O:,~........... .......,+?$I88=?+:,~7$788888OO8888OOO88OZOOOOO8Z,:.. . .. ......~7$$88+?+,.,+OO$8O888?$8D7ZDD7OOZOOOZZOO8O8=:+........ .....+$8$D8??=...+O$D888O8++OZ$ODNZD8OOOZOOZZOOO88I:+....... ...,?O8$DDII,...:$ND8888OO?=,.,=ZNOD88OOOZOOZOOOO8DZ~+...... ..,I88ODDI7.....+ONNO88OOO8==..=ZZD$888OZZO8OO8OO88DZ~I..... .,+O8DDN77......?8MNO88888O8=?:7ZDZOOO888OZZOO8OZO8DD7~=.... .=Z8N8D77.......?8NNDDD888O88++ODO88OOZOOOO8OZOOZO88DD?+.... :7DNDDO7I.......+8NDMDD88O888O$OOOOO88OOZZO88ZOZZO88DDD=O... +ODND87$........~$NMMN88OO888OO88OOOOOOOOZZOOZOZZZO88DDII... 7DNM88IO.........?8NMMM8888OOOOO88OZZZOOOZZO8OZOZZO88DDO?... ZNMMDD7... . . ..,?ONNMMM8888OOOO8888OZZOOOZO8OZOOZO8DDN?+.. ONMM8O7............=$8NNMMMMD88OOOOO8888OO88OOOZO8OO88DNI8.. 8NMMDO7. .... . ...,=7ODNNMMMMMMN88OOOOOOZOZZZOO88OO8DDID.. 8NMM8OI. .. .... ...,~+I$O8DNMMMMN8OOOO8OO8Z8OO8OO88DI8.. 8NMM88?. . . . ......,~+7ODNNMMM8OO88OOOZZZZOOO8DI=.. ONNM88+O.. . . .......,+$8NMMM8O88OZZZOOOOOO8OI... ZDNMD8II.. . . . ..........,+ZNMNM88OOZ8O88O8OO87$... 7DMNNDO=O ..... .....OZZ?O$7......=ZNNNNOOOO88O8O8888I8 .. +ONON88I=.... . ..,~8DOOIZZ$+?......+ON8N888O8OZOO88877.... :7DMDND8++... . .:I8DN8DDD88Z+,.... :7DNNO88OOZZOO8D$I,.... .~ZNNNDD8=+.. . .~ZNZNZDDDD8??. .....?DNNZ8OOOZOOOD7I7..... ..+ONNDDDD~~,.. .,IDMZN8DDD??,.......?8MN7O8OOOOO8I?I...... .,?ONMDD8D+:?.. ..~$DNZDID??:.......,ID$D88OOO888I??....... ...,+ONNODID7:~,....~$DNIDI+,........~Z78I88O888O++:........ .....=ZDN?DODD=:~:...:IZI~=.........:I=ZID88888===,......... .....:IONN7DIDD~:,~,..,...........~=I?8D8888===,........... ........~78NN78$DDN~,,,:::.,.,:~::~~:D8DD88:=~:..... .... . ........,xDM+88I8DD8I::,,,,:,=DND8DD8~=+~,...... . . .. ............~?Z8ND=Z887=ID8DDDDDDDO~~+I+::,.......... ...... ..............,~?$O8DN$=?7$ZZZZ$7I+~:?=,.................... ..................,:=+I77$$$$77I+=:,.................. ..... ........................................................... ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu