PCI express uses co-planar ground referencing for the high speed systems. Ground pins are adjacent to the differential signal pins on each side. I would hope that QSeven did the same. Scott McMorrow Teraspeed(R) Consulting - A XXXXXX company 16 Stormy Brook Rd Falmouth, ME 04105 (401) 284-1827 Business http://www.teraspeed.com More to come ... soon. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM, ckrich_99@xxxxxxxxx < dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I know that high-speed signals must be routed with an > adjacent reference plane so the current loop area is minimal. We're > always told not to cross plane splits on PCBs > because this will cause SI/crosstalk and EMI issues. > However, I'm working with a QSeven module, which plugs into > an edge connector. > http://www.qseven-standard.org/ > The QSeven connector supports very > high-speed differential signals like Ethernet, USB, HDMI, LVDS and several > single-ended buses. Once the module is > plugged into a plastic connector, the signals pass through the connector > into > gold-plated discrete pins which are soldered to the baseboard. However, > there's no reference plane for these > pins (for at least 6mm), and yet it works fine- how? > I've had the same question about PCI Express > connectors. They uses only > differential-pairs so you can argue the diff-pairs use each other as > "returns" > if there's no nearby plane. But QSeven > also has high-speed single-ended signals. > Thanks+ Regards,Richard > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List forum is accessible at: > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu