Hi Mohammed, if your thinking would be correct, then how could anyone possibly send 10GBps signals over a 19" Backplane? I think you mixed something up. As long as your tracelength is shorter than the risetime, you don't have to think too much about impedance controlled traces. Traces longer than the risetime do need the right impedance to avoid reflections and other nasty effects. The return path length is not added to the tracelength of this rule of thumb. For high speeds make sure the return path length is not exceeding the signal path length (yet another rule of thumb). BR Gert -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Absender ist HARTING Electronics GmbH & Co. KG; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Espelkamp; Registergericht: Bad Oeynhausen; Register-Nr.: HRA 5596; persönlich haftende Gesellschafterin: HARTING Electronics Management GmbH; Sitz der Komplementär-GmbH: Espelkamp; Registergericht der Komplementär-GmbH: Bad Oeynhausen; Register-Nr. der Komplementär-GmbH: HRB 8808; Geschäftsführer: Torsten Ratzmann -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Mohamed Ali Gazi Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Dezember 2009 07:02 An: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: [SI-LIST] relation between rise time and trace length Dear Experts, I understood from some of the materials that the trace length between the driver to receiver ( signal path + return path) should be less than the rise time. Is my understanding correct? For example if the rise time of a signal is 1ns then the signal trace length should be less than 3 inches( signal trace length 3 inches and return path 3 inches totally 6 inches = 1 ns of signal travel delay which is equal to rise time of the signal) If my understanding is wrong can anybody please provide me with some materials to understand it. Sorry if this is bit basic question. Thank you very much. Mohamed Ali ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu