I think the bigger issue on PCIE is that selection of cap placement forces a strategy for layer selection, via placement, number of vias, and stub length. For instance, if you are routing on a Stripline layer, placement of the cap near the connector (on the bottom) can save you a via and stub. Jon Powell Disclaimer: The content of this message is my personal opinion only and although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. EPSD Product SI 將 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Istvan Novak Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:55 PM To: Lee Ritchey Cc: fei xue; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: AC series capacitor position in high speed differential signals Lee, As it was pointed out in earlier threads, location does make a difference unless reflections are negligibly small. Assuming linearity, when we move components around, reciprocity prevails, but voltage transfer function from source to load will change, which in turn impacts eye parameters. Regards, Istvan Novak Oracle-America Lee Ritchey wrote: > This has been answered before on this forum. Since the circuits are > linear, it does not matter from a signal integrity point of view. > > Lee > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: fei xue <harrison_cls@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Date: 5/12/2010 11:35:49 AM >> Subject: [SI-LIST] AC series capacitor position in high speed >> > differential signals > >> Hello all, >> We often can get different guideline of placing capacitor position when >> > placing AC series capacitor on high speed differential signals, like PCIe, > SAS or LVDS signals. sometimes we followed the guideline to put capacitors > near driver, sometimes near multi-connection connectors or sometimes put it > near receivers. > >> Could anybody tell me what is the consideration of capacitor placing >> > position? Thanks! > >> Harrison >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu