I can see logic in that argument (well, except for the last statement). If = you don't need the dynamic range or the precision calibration, then TDR makes a lot of sen= se. -- Daniel > From: "Chris Cheng" <Chris.Cheng@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >=20 > I can only speak from a system design perspective. The high speed samplin= g scope is free because=20 > that's basic lab equipment every hardware manager will budget for his lab= . A VNA is an extra=20 > equipment solely used for channel modelling/testing or the remote possibi= lity of PD analysis. I=20 > never believe in highspeed PD problem beyond the die and package so I nev= er can justify a VNA=20 > other than channel measurements. I do have both but I think an impulse re= sponse on a sampling=20 > scope can satisfies a lot of system designers need for S-parameter measur= ements. And I believe=20 > that scope company up North is listening :-D (just came back from their s= eminar, LOL) > Now if I can use that VNA budget for a Ferrari...... >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of dgun@xxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:04 PM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: A question for the instrument guys on TDR and TDT >=20 >=20 > Wouldn't a scope fast enough to capture the reflections or transmissions > of a 35ps pulse be as or more expensive than a low-cost VNA? >=20 > -- > Daniel >=20 >=20 > > From: "Chris Cheng" <Chris.Cheng@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > I can understand the merit of a step response and direct read out of = =3D3D > > impedance profile. > > Will it be easy to also include a mode with a sharp pulse instead of = =3D3D > > step for an impulse response ? If you have a circuit to generate a 35ps= =3D > =3D3D > > step, can you use it to generate a 35ps pulse also ? I think there are = =3D > =3D3D > > steps you can do to convert one to the other but a direct impulse =3D3D > > response is just too good to pass up. > > Network analyzer on the cheap. > > Thanks in advanced, > > Chris --=20 Search for products and services at:=20 http://search.mail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu