Dimiter figuring out the actual power loss is a good application for one of the available 3D field solvers. If you are going to locate the antenna beneath a slot, you could start to estimate by calculating the incident power on the slot, and then looking up or calculating the insertion loss of a slot antenna of the dimensions you propose. The one caution I offer for the keyboard location is that all that sea water in your user's hands is pretty good at absorbing 2.4GHz. Steve. Dimiter Popoff wrote: > Not being an RF person I hope someone on this list would be > able and willing to comment on that. > > I am about to build in a Bluetooth and/or a wifi module in a > small device which will be in a metal (0.5mm brass) case; > it looks more or less like a tiny laptop. > The surface where the keyboard of a laptop would be located > will not be metal, it would be fair to assume it to be > a 4 layer PCB. > I am eyeing an NSC module - LMX9838 - which comes with its > antenna included and everything. I know I cannot put that > inside the metal case (even though I am non-RF... :-) ), > but I wonder if I can get away with putting it just under > the PCB closing the "keyboard" side - having etched all metal > over it? If this would work, how much an opening do I need? > How much degradation - roughly estimated, obviously - would > that result into? > Another chance I see is to place the module - it is a tiny > 10x17 PCB, antenna included in one edge of its board - so > that it would close a hole of its size (somewhat larger) > in the case. That would leave it open from one side and > totally closed at the other. How about this? Might be a bit > better than beneath the PCB... > > Thanks for any insight, > > Dimiter > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Dimiter Popoff Transgalactic Instruments > > http://www.tgi-sci.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/didi_tgi/sets/72157600228621276/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > -- Steve Weir Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 California office (408) 884-3985 Business (707) 780-1951 Fax Main office (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax Oregon office (503) 430-1065 Business (503) 430-1285 Fax http://www.teraspeed.com This e-mail contains proprietary and confidential intellectual property of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Teraspeed(R) is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu