In a message dated 4/17/07 12:20:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx writes: Lately, I have seen so many dogs with weak temperaments, shy, sharp, dog aggressive, etc., plus dogs that are dying young from health issues, dogs that look like bitches, weak ears, curly tails, etc. Lord for the life of me I don't know where some of you are going to dog shows. On the contrary, I have seen all of the above in a much less degree than in years past. Breeder are to be congratulated on getting rid of much of what is written above. I just judged a large Specialty in California, and none of the above was present. NONE! I am glad Randy said this. I read with some interest the post saying how terrible temperament was. I just don't see it. Of course I seldom travel outside my area, (over 10 hours on the road), but I can think of a lot more to worry about than temperament. I find it unusual to see bad temperament, and even when I travel to judge, I see so much less of it than I used to. I was, a few years back, amazed to hear people on the List saying how much trouble we had with pigment. Then Jack Newton reminded me that out on the West Coast we were breeding to Magellan, Ben and The Boss. Of course we had no pigment problems, but back East, they did. Often these are regional problems, and so when we read the List, we shake often our heads. If we have improved anything in the last 20 years, it has to be temperament. So seldom do we hear, "Oh, he was mistreated as a puppy" or some other excuse. We have a problem here and there, but it is rare. We work hard to breed a better dog, and from what I have seen, every year the breed improves. I remember some white marked dogs back in the 60s, but find it rare today. Maybe I am too isolated here in California, but on the other hand, it is 85 outside today, and sunny. It makes those dark dogs shine. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================