I heard last night that there were 2 small dogs inside the house, my first clue. From a local tv station's web page, "Police said the dog was a Presa Canario, a breed that is known as being even-tempered, intelligent, athletic, loyal to families, protective of property and wary of strangers. Some said the breed can be extremely vicious because it is a mix of a dog native to the Canary Islands with a bulldog or mastiff, NBC 6's Sharon Lawson reported" From my experience here, this is likely but only my interpretation of events. The big dog lived outside in the yard. He had little or not contact with the family. The woman went into the yard and may even have picked up the dog's bowl for water or food. The untrained dog took reasonable offense at the women coming into his territory and took what he believed to be appropiate action. This is not what dogs are for!!! But you are the chior. I have several club members who must keep their dogs outside. However the dogs are socialized. I have dog sat for one club member and would again if asked. The dogs do not live inside, for good reason. But they are wonderful and friendly, if they know you or are introduced to you. Another member also keeps their dogs outside, they just don't use me to dog sit. I have no problem with their dogs either. But I go to homes often where the people insist that the dogs must be outside and they do not spend time with the dogs, these dogs are problems. Frequently the owners are much worse than the dogs. This very issue is why I tell my pet owning clients to train the dogs to live in the house. No well trained dog will bite, much less kill, the family it lives with. But a dog ignored, at any size, is dangerous. I will be contacting local press on the matter. sheila Sheila of Miami Mernydex GSD's Loving Obedience Dog Training --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================