I do the same and will also recommend vets in their area. If I don't know a vet in their area, I asked you all on the List :-) So far, so good with the exception of one vet in MN. But, the guy is my sister's vet and he treated my DM dog a few years back when I was visiting. So, he at least called me. I told him to do Prelims and send them to OFA or even a radiologist at the UofM and he'd see the pups hips were just fine. He did and they were. In a message dated 8/19/2006 8:06:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: In fact, I TELL puppy buyers to expect it and to not buy into it. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================