[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ununited anconeal process and fragmented medial coronoid pr...

  • From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:48:21 -0700 (PDT)

My wonderful Serena had UAP in both elbows and a subluxated patella in one 
knee, all diagnosed at around a year.  I thought it was pano until the xrays 
were done.  Normally, I would agree with Kathy and put the puppy down.  This 
bitch, however, was an exceptional companion.  I spent thousands doing 
surgery on all 3 legs and was able to keep her in my life for 8 wonderful 
years.  I do not regret one dollar of it, but I would not do it again.
I would rather spend the money campaigning and breeding a sound dog who was 
also a wonderful companion.  It is all a matter of priorities, I guess.
Zoa

Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockshepherds.com 




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From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:06:22 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ununited anconeal process and fragmented medial 
coronoid pr...

Ughhhhhhh.......UAP is one of the very worst things a puppy owner can  hear.

I have had one experience, when I bought a pick male puppy from a lovely  
litter a friend had bred (friend kept the bitch). We had the diagnosis  
fairly early, before 6 months anyway, and I did some quick and extensive  
homework.  (There are a variety of procedures, from removing the bone,  
<makes 
joint unsatble> to cutting a notch in the bone so that it "might"  fuse 
etc.)  
And you'll have some people say do nothing if it isn't  bothering the dog; 
case in point some dogs have it and aren't diagnosed until  later in life.

Turns out the bitch puppy in the afore mentioned litter also had it.  We 
learned that the worse the bone deterioration was at the time of discovery,  
the lower the odds for any successful treatment.  I fought that information  
and would have spent anything for my little guy, but a vet I've since come 
to  really admire pulled me aside and said  the prognosis was poor, that as 
an  adult he wouldn't have been able to go up steps or jump in a car without 
a  great deal of discomfort.

We did a final set of x-rays on both puppies, reviewed them, saw how  
horrible they were and didn't let them wake up from the anesthesia.

It was one of the hardest things I've ever done in dogs.  More  recently, I 
watched a male some folks have, who I know had the surgery done  limp, head 
bobbing lame, around the novice ring in OB.  I felt a  little better about 
my decision.

The puppy you are asking about also had FCP, which makes this case a real  
mess.  I'm not optimistic for  your friends.

I'd suggest they find a vet who can lay it all out on the line for them and 
not one who works like a reverse ATM.  I have no doubt that there are some 
cases that aren't so awful, and maybe one or the other of the surgical 
fixes  have worked on occasion, but I think the prognosis will come down to 
just how  much damage is already present in the joint.

I'll tell you, after that, a dog that produces UAP is a real non starter  
for me.  

Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd  Champions
visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds  


In a message dated 6/10/2009 9:41:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

thier  German Shepherd.  Did you have the surgery?  would you do it  again? 
Did your dog go on to  live a normal life?  Is there  anything you would 
want to tell someone who's dog has it?  My friends  just found out thier 10 
month old puppy has it.  Any information is much  appreciated.  Sue  T.
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