[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V6 #1316
- From: "James and Gail Wells" <thirty55@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:17:08 -0700
I'm not saying any of that and FYI I'm not saying that as an "excuse for those
who never win" because when we show we do win.
Just saying that even if a dog is a top producer, AOE, GV, etc. does not mean
that they will do that with your bitch. So - once again - if they have what
your bitch needs pedigree and otherwise then breed to them - if not then find
another great dog that does match up. Too many people go to a dog just because
they are the top winner without considering that it takes two and those two
need to be a good match in order to get good progeny. The stud dog cannot do
it all by himself nor can the bitch.
Gail
Gail J. Wells
Echowind - Tacoma, WA
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From: Helen Franklin<mailto:helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V6 #1316
#1 can depend on who owns the dog and who is promoting the dog.
Bailey is a top producer with a number of bitches and cannot be denied
#2 can depend on who owns the dog and who is promoting the off spring
Many top bitches are owned by unknown people
#3 can depend on who owns the dog and who is promoting the dog.
Some AOE's are owned by unknown owners
#4 " " " " " " " "
Grand Victors have often been a big surprise
#5 " " " " " " " "
Unknown handlers and owners have gone Best in Show
In other words.........this is much baloney and often an excuse of "those that
never win"
-----Original Message-----
From: James and Gail Wells <thirty55@xxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2012 6:33 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V6 #1316
Very well said Kay! Hopefully it will make people think about what is
important. It's not breeding to the big winner of the moment but breeding to
the dog that will do the best for your bitch and your breeding program. If
that
dog turns out to be the big winner great - if not then the search should be on.
I especially loved your comment "study, ask questions, watch and listen". I've
done this since the 1970's and still do today. Knowledge is the most important
thing to gain. Agree or disagree you can always learn something from someone
else.
Gail
Gail J. Wells
Echowind - Tacoma, WA
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Msg: #6 in digest
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:32:48 -0400 (EDT)
From:
bedkar@xxxxx<mailto:bedkar@xxxxx><mailto:bedkar@xxxxx<mailto:bedkar@xxxxx?>>
Subject: Re: ABOUT TITLES
#1 can depend on who owns the dog and who is promoting the dog.
#2 can depend on who owns the dog and who is promoting the off spring
#3 can depend on who owns the dog and who is promoting the dog.
#4 " " " " " " " "
#5 " " " " " " " "
In other words, there are too many variables that come into play to
obtain these titles...MONEY, ADVERTISING, INFLUENTIAL HANDLERS, ETC.
There are TOP Dogs that are average in quality and there are top quality
dogs that go unnoticed. What is import is to pay less attention to titles
and to pay more attention to what animals complement your breeding program...
study, ask questions, watch and listen.
Kay
In a message dated 8/13/12 3:58:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx<mailto:helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx><mailto:helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx<mailto:helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx?>>
writes:
l. #1 Stud Dog: Most important to the future of the Breed
2. ROM: Important producer for the future of the Breed
3. AOE: Outstanding sound top Show Dog
4. Grand Victor: One person's opinion on one day (some have been BAD)
5. BIS: 3 opinions on one day (usually not GSD judges)
note: 3 & 4 may change due to use of Grand Victor as stud dog
-Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus
-Home of Bedkar German Shepherds
-AKC Breeders of Merit
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