In a message dated 1/8/2006 3:42:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx writes: and they are quietly still nursing on mom too... maybe i just cant see all the milk in her and with Catja she just had the 12 pupies and she looked like a darn cow so maybe i just forgot Yani is smaller i dont know!! but i did what my gut said.. and just watching over to see whats going on. i did check weights this afternoon and they gained some grams and half or quarter of an ounce each so maybe thats the supplementing OR Mom. 1 gram equals 0.035 of an ounce here is a chart to see the ounces too its 1lb and then how many ounces. todays weights arent on there where we show a gain Dawnmarie, I say leave them alone and don't fuss w/ them/handle them so much. Learn to trust your ears. If a puppy is in distress, hungry, needs to be pottied, cold (or hot!), you'll hear it. Quiet puppies are happy puppies. If they are quiet and content w/ momma. leave them alone! I don't weigh new born puppies. I listen. If all is quiet and peaceful, if I see them nursing, if momma is content, all is well. Kathy three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================