[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: setting up dogs
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- Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:36:16 -0400
Carolyn makes some good points... European "high" or "show" lines dogs are
also criticized for their more extreme toplines and "crippling" rear
angulation. Here's a link to an article that shows how stacking can radically
change the appearance of a dog. The article was written by someone who's first
language is not English, but it is still highly readable.) If someone can't
link to the article, I'll send it to you. It's very interesting.
http://www.schlossbuldern.de/article-english.html
Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Stormy435@xxxxxxx>; <DKARLOFF@xxxxxxx>
Cc: <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 1:20 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: setting up dogs
HMMMmmmmmm ......... it never ceases to amaze me that the German line forum
continues to berate
the topline on the American Bred German Shepherd Dog when you consider some of
the toplines
that are on their big winners. <G>
Don't mean to start a war here because I didn't check with Evan on the
timing......but I'll take a high wither
without the hump and propped up front any day. <G> I'm told their handlers
are to blame for that look
too......but I don't think you could force that on a good back. I'm sure they
are just like the Am. Bred
and some are "over the top"....and some are not. We just don't waste time
publicy berating extremes.
Might be interesting to try to pose some other Breeds with short hocks and long
angulated stifles with
similar angles like an Afghan the same as our GSD to see if their hock lies on
the ground posed the same.
I think the difference is in the long sloping croup........
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Stormy Hope To: DKARLOFF@xxxxxxx Cc: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:48 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [gsdshowlist]
setting up dogs
What people should do, occasionally, is find a German line forum and read
the comments about the
American line dogs. What Dania is saying is exactly what you will read.
They won't see the stacking,
they will just "read" the picture. Of course, some of the comments are off
the wall, but the hock on the
ground and the ski-slope topline, the exaggerated length are wysiwyg.
I even "meet" some of the people from THIS list on those lists... and
that's interesting, too.
Stormy
On May 16, 2009, at 8:41 PM, DKARLOFF@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I find this "giraffe topline" to be most damaging when it is shown
> in a> National magazine where the general public gets a distorted vision
> of our> breed. The words "crippled and unable to function" easily comes to
> their mind> when they view a dog with a topline that looks like a
ski-slope and
> the> hocks are completely laying on the ground. It pains me to see
> someone pay> significant amount of monies to show this "caricature" and
the
> feeling is> doubled when the culprit is a "handler" who should know better.
> Dania
>
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