This post is exactly right. You can't dictate honesty & integrity.....Someone either has it or they don't. Most do, but the few bad apples can make a bad name for the rest. This goes with judges, breeders AND handlers. They are either honest and have integrity...OR THEY DON'T!! Period! Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: GSDCHABLIS@xxxxxxx To: BARBMARKH@xxxxxxx; pumagsd@xxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:01 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re; Judging and showing........... I have never understood the fact that people think that not judging is going to make a person honest. If a person has integrity and honesty judging isn't going to make him crooked. I believe that judges should breed and be involved. Knowing what the current problems are in the breed that we need to address. Lack of knowledge is most hurtful in my eyes. Now I'm back to lurking. Cindy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================