Preposterous !!!! If you eliminate our successful breeder/exhibitors from the judging community, you sentence us to AB level judging. Now, this is not to say that ALL ab judges are bad nor that ALL breeder/ exhbitor judges are good. However, perhaps you should examine the difference. Most breeder/ exhibitor judges have kept up with the progress made in the breed over many years. Most are honest, and there is not one thing you can do about the few who are back- acratchers anyway. OTOH, most of those who quit breeding and exhibiting also quit learning. When that accurs, it's all over and we are left with those "old codger" AB-type judges who have quit learning about our breed (if they ever did know it ). Breeding and exhibiting keeps one actively learning all the time. Why would we want someone judging our breed who has lost the incentive to know as much as possible about every aspect. Think of it years down the road------Will someone who lost that incentive fifteen years ago be able to be an astute judge ? I am sure he would not. I also know that there are exceptions, that we have some wonderful judges who no longer breed or exhibit for reasons mostly of advancing age, but they still are actively involved and attend as many shows as possible, still with a breeder/exhibitor perspective. Flame suit on, Carolyn alfredo pumariega <pumagsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:This post is written in response to Mr. Fred Migliore. Judging and showing presents an inevitable conflict of interest whether real or perceived by exhibitors. This presents an unfair advantage. However I will admit that the large majority of judges that show are exceptions to this. I believe that the vast majority of judges are honest. It is those in minority that exchange favors to win that make fools of exhibitors who simply make majors for them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================