I have never been reinfected since the first episode...and I culture about a month before they are due in heat...and as the DOC stated...if its there it shows up in the first week of growing ...you always would have the option of AI...a bitch with Mycoplasma stands a very good chance of reabsorbing her puppies...or just missing altogether! Deborah Gebhard Solana Shepherds,MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Madlung" <stormygsd@xxxxxxx> To: "solanagsd" <solanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Doctrcorgi@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:57 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question on mycoplasma testing > I understand.. but do you routinely re-culture after you finish the course > of antibiotic? If you do all this too soon before breeding, what stops them > from getting reinfected?(if it is as contagious as stated).. this could be a > never ending process.. > Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds > http://www.shadowacre.com/future.htm Updated Dec.19./04!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "solanagsd" <solanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <stormygsd@xxxxxxx>; <Doctrcorgi@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:53 PM > Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question on mycoplasma testing > > > > and if the MYCOPLASMA is NOT gone the bitch can sexually transmit it to > the > > stud dog where he in turn becomes infected and infects other bitches... > > Deborah Gebhard > > Solana Shepherds,MI > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Madlung" <stormygsd@xxxxxxx> > > To: <Doctrcorgi@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:47 PM > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question on mycoplasma testing > > > > > > > with all the information given regarding Mycoplasma, it just makes sense > > to > > > treat the bitches about 4 weeks prior to her season if she is going to > be > > > bred.. > > > Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds > > > http://www.shadowacre.com/future.htm Updated Dec.19./04!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Doctrcorgi@xxxxxxx> > > > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:47 PM > > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question on mycoplasma testing > > > > > > > > > > I have done extensive Mycoplasma testing. It is a deep vaginal swab > > one > > > > uses, NOT a uterine swab. The fact is that even when the bitch is in > > full > > > estrus, > > > > ready to breed, the cervical opening is only slightly bigger then the > > lead > > > in > > > > a pencil...so, you are not going to be able to get in to the uterus > with > > a > > > > swab. I culture the specimen for 3 weeks with a reading after one > week, > > > two > > > > weeks and at the end of three weeks. If the culture comes up with a > > > "moderate" > > > > amount on the first week, I start medicating with Baytrill > immediately. > > > This > > > > early moderate number will most likely increase to a heavy growth in > the > > > culture > > > > by the end of three weeks. > > > > For male dogs, I ejaculate the dog into a sterile tube the same as > > > > collecting semen for an AI...By getting the sperm cells, you get a > > culture > > > from > > > > within the testicle itself. > > > > > > > > There has been some comtroversity about the real danger of > Mycoplasma > > > in > > > > the vagina....Let me tell you my story.. > > > > > > > > I was getting litters of 0 to 5 puppies..Some were born early and > dead, > > > some > > > > born very tiny, weak and died, some were born alive and lived up to a > > > > week...All sorts of different early puppy deaths....So, I finally > > > figured there > > > > must be some kind of contagious agent afoot. > > > > > > > > I cultured for Mycoplasma,and found some bitches to be positive. I > then > > > > treated all dogs in my kennel, 40plus. After the treatment and spot > > > reculturing to > > > > be sure the Mycoplasma was gone, a wonderful change occurred...The > > litters > > > > went back to normal numbers and the pups lived...In fact the first > > litter > > > after > > > > treating the dogs, was 14 in number!!!!!!This is in my opinion enough > > > proof > > > > that Mycoplasma can be a problem, and is the first thing I advise > > checking > > > if a > > > > bitch whelps weak pups or does not conceive... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > > > POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the > > > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > > FORWARDS > > > of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original > author > > > AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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