from the ofa site: Chemical restraint (anesthesia) is not required by OFA but chemical restraint to the point of muscle relaxation is recommended. With chemical restraint optimum patient positioning is easier with minimal repeat radiographs (less radiation exposure) and a truer representation of the hip status is obtained. my vet and ofa said the same thing that you get a truer representation of the hip status and they said specifically that dogs that are tense can make the femoral head fit tighter where it may not if sedated. no more to say on it other than call ofa for clarification if it's that important. susan www.sander-haus.com <http://www.sander-haus.com/> Sander-Haus German Shepherd Dogs Quality West German & other European Bloodlines Members of the GSDCA, GSDCA-WDA, SV of Germany Selectively breeding not mass producing! From: Ann Mariano [mailto:brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 10:50 AM To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Carl & Sue Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] ofa quote virginia/anesthesia I think you have that statement reversed, since if a dog is not under anestesia they are more likely to fight, and distort the xrayso multiple xrays will be taken (per OFA), thus they may not pass when they would have passed if they had been under and cooperative. But to me if I can avoid anestesia, and still get a good result I will. (have 7 OFA Good through him, and 2 Fairs so far). And also, to clarify, the vet I use does put a dog under only when a dog fights too much or will get abetter result from OFA, which I have only known of him doing it once with a friend with their high drive working bitch. Since he felt without anestesia she may or may not pass, so he put her under, and got better films, and passed. Ann Marie www.amarigsd.com Home of Ch Fairway's Leah v Nadelwald TC ROM OFA Ch Amari's Beware of Foxy Roxy CGC TC OFA Ch Amari's Elizabeth Taylor OFA (Best in Show Bred-By winner) Amari's It's All in the Game (in-training :)) --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Carl & Sue <sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Carl & Sue <sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] ofa quote virginia/anesthesia To: "'Ann Mariano'" <brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx>, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 8:41 AM what they mean is the ones who pass w/o relaxation maybe should "not" have passed. susan www.sander-haus.com <http://www.sander-haus.com/> Sander-Haus German Shepherd Dogs Quality West German & other European Bloodlines Members of the GSDCA, GSDCA-WDA, SV of Germany Selectively breeding not mass producing! From: Ann Mariano [mailto:brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:03 AM To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] ofa quote virginia/anesthesia I know OFA "says" that a dog may not pass unless they are under anestesia, but I think it really may be the vet you use, and their skill in setting up dogs. 10+ years ago, I went to my local vet who does OFA all the time, put my girl Britta under anestesia, and hips looked like they would notpass. Sent them to her breeder, and they told me to use their vet in PA, and with NO anestesia, and positioning changes they looked like different hips, and she passed. Always have used him since, and have had atleast 8 or 9 dogs OFA without anestesia. Recently even took a bitch in full blown season, since we had the appointment and she came in early. Same vet told me OFA says not to xray during heat but he's done several bitches now in season, and they passed. So we got her xrayed, and she came back OFA Good. Ann Marie www.amarigsd.com <http://www.amarigsd.com/> Home of Ch Fairway's Leah v Nadelwald TC ROM OFA Ch Amari's Beware of Foxy Roxy CGC TC OFA Ch Amari's Elizabeth Taylor OFA (Best in Show Bred-By winner) Amari's It's All in the Game (in-training :)) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================