"remodeling of the femoral head and acetabulum and thickening of the femoral neck" Not always true. I know of several GSDs who had subluxation checked and nothing else. Barb H - PA -----Original Message----- From: bedkar <bedkar@xxxxx> To: sanderhaus <sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Ann Mariano <brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx>; Showgsd-l <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Mar 5, 2011 10:52 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ofa quote virginia/anesthesia If relaxation were the only indication I might agree with you but...... ny dog with laxity would also have physical changes in the skeletal natomy....remodeling of the femoral head and acetabulum and thickening f the femoral neck. Also, the depth of the acetabulum cannot be changed ith anesthesia. Kay ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Carl & Sue" <sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx> o: "Ann Mariano" <brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx>, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Saturday, March 5, 2011 5:41:49 AM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ofa quote virginia/anesthesia what they mean is the ones who pass w/o relaxation maybe should "not" have assed. susan www.sander-haus.com <http://www.sander-haus.com/> ander-Haus German Shepherd Dogs uality West German & other European Bloodlines embers of the GSDCA, GSDCA-WDA, SV of Germany Selectively breeding not mass producing! From: Ann Mariano [mailto:brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx] ent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:03 AM o: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx ubject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] ofa quote virginia/anesthesia know OFA "says" that a dog may not pass unless they are under anestesia, ut I think it really may be the vet you use, and their skill in setting up ogs. 10+ years ago, I went to my local vet who does OFA all the time, put y girl Britta under anestesia, and hips looked like they would notpass. ent them to her breeder, and they told me to use their vet in PA, and with O anestesia, and positioning changes they looked like different hips, and he passed. Always have used him since, and have had atleast 8 or 9 dogs FA without anestesia. Recently even took a bitch in full blown season, ince we had the appointment nd she came in early. Same vet told me OFA says not to xray during heat ut he's done several bitches now in season, and they passed. So we got her rayed, and she came back OFA Good. 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