Sorry, but I just have to say - this ballot leaves me absolutely breathless!! Sherry has a point and so does the lister, who suggested blues, livers and other less then desirable colors should be on the DQ list. "strong rich colors are preferred" Isn't that the message in the Standard? What is the sense of putting more serious faults in the breed ring? Can you visualize a bi or solid black with other than a black nose? Even pale and washedout dogs look better with a BLACK NOSE!! Sally is right, Not only is the barn door closed BUT the horse cannot be caught, that is, unless all the ballots are put in the dumpster and we start all over. Good Grief!! Charlie Brown has nothing on us.!! Somehow, some of us were under the impression the Standard was/is the core, the root system, the epitome, and the REASON we have an organization entitled THE GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG CLUB OF AMERICA. Without OUR Standard we have nothing. How can the subject matter, (the Standard), which is, in and of itself, so vital, so important, so all encompassing, be limited in discussion? - Maybe it was missed: Where is the text presented for discussion, input, questions, suggestions ? This is OUR STANDARD !!!! The ballot for a Standard change is vitally important!!! There are many, long time, successful, knowledgeable exhibitors/breeders "out there" we SHOULD SEEK INPUT from all of them. What in the world happened to OPEN DISCUSSION? From 8 years of personal experience it can be verified; THE BOARD WORKS HARD, SERVING IS FREQUENTLY THANKLESS, EXPENSIVE, AND TIME CONSUMING. We are appreciative of those who serve. Please let ALL OF US work & contribute for the betterment of the whole , by including & respecting those who are not in our "circle" of intimate friends, confidants, or yes people. Otherwise we cut off our own nose to spite our faces. Nancy Harper-Mulvaney ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================