Keep in mind that other than the drugs thing, none of this is new. Alterations of any kind have been verboten for some years now, and it's always beem up to the judge to decide...and act upon. And while we all know that a lot of dogs are dyed (including some top winners) and quite a few drugged (some are on uppers, others on downers...again, including some of the top winners in the country), and everyone knows about Poodles and their hairpieces and hairspray, etc., none of which are allowed, those things have been overlooked. Now, please note that no one has said who's going to decide that a dog's been drugged or medicated...so it looks like this job has been dumped on the judges, too... what I want to know is "what does the judge write in the book" about this? If I decide your dog has been drugged, and I throw the dog out for that and put that down in my judge's book, can you sue me? I ask because nowhere does it mention proof being necessary.........as I said...only partially thought out, as usual. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Martello I just want to be there when they start feeling around and checking the dog for the possibility of the surgery. or alteration on # 8, # 10 & # 11............?????? <G> Or for that matter......wrestling a dog to the ground looking for a "correction of a cleft palate".........sounds almost entertaining to me.....especially on a Bull Mastiff....<G> ( I know.....I have a warped sense of humor ) { :o) Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================