I agree that if AKC wants judges not to cross over then do away with BOW. I also thought about the judges giving that as an excuse. But one of the situations I did notice the Rep was standing right at the entrace of the ring looking at a catalog and watching BOB . The judge was obviously uncomfortable and I happen to know this judge well and afterward she told me that she was under pressure not to do "easy" cross-overs. I know her well enough that I do not think she was lying. So maybe every area's Rep is different. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx To: CagGra@xxxxxxx; sally@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: interesting In a message dated 12/19/2006 11:36:04 A.M. Central Standard Time, caggra@xxxxxxx writes: I actually had multiple judges tell me that they were instructed and warned NOT to cross-over if cases of lop-sided entries. I was told it was hush-hush, but that is one of **************************************************************************** Jeff, I think those judges are using that as an excuse to make themselves look better when they don't cross it over. I have been judging now for 12 years and have yet to be told not to cross it over. I don't always do it but if I feel the one with the lesser points is better in BOW then I will certainly cross it over even if it were the only entry. If AKC does not want us to cross it over then I say the need to do away with BOW> Lee Brown ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================