Hi Sally, we always have majors at the N Indiana and Michigan specialty shows. Yes, sometimes we have to build them, but good judges usually bring a major entry. I find that often majors are built by handlers that do well under certain judges at the all breeds, not that the judges are always good. There are some good all breed judges out there though. They are crossing over in fewer and fewer shows, mostly at the all breeds. I did go WB at one specialty this fall though and it was one point in dogs and the judge didn't cross ove rfor the major, which is a rareity. . A few years ago I was at a specialty and it was two in dogs and four in bitches and a well known judge was judging. In breed he gave the bitch BOW and well known handler of WD said out loud, but it's not a major for the dog. The judge then said, Oh I mean the dog is BOW. That would never happen at an all breed. JMO Ann Sally <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I find it interesting that many people are out there encouraging building majors at the allbreeds shows but (except for Sheila) you rarely see anyone encouraging entries for specialty shows- Sally www.embroiderybysally.com (new) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================