Just because a dog goes to all-breed shows to finish his championship doesn't mean he isn't a good one. Not all dogs who win at specialties are good dogs either. I am amazed when I look through the Review at some of the dogs who have won at specialties. I either think to myself "the quality must not have been very good" or "What was this judge thinking" - I especially think this when I have seen some of the suspect dogs in person. Based on the Specialty thing - I would say it would probably be easier for a new person to start out going to regular all-breed shows and showing his dog there. And, interesting that you make the comment about numbers of Dalmatians, etc. There are actually, many, many more GSD litters in the US, bred by showbreeders than there are Dalmatian litters. As with any other breed, the very special ones are far and few between and like GSDs, the very special ones only get to go to specialties... I am failing to see the difference between the breeds in that regard. The important part is getting newbies a good dog, with a good mentor into the sport and quit the segregation between specialty dogs and all-breed dogs. BTW: I also believe that a specialty dog should be able to win at all-breeds and vice-versa.... Jessica MacMillan No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC) Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================