Lee, I'm always wanting to learn, even tho I'm an old 57 backwards kid. You say here that there are 2 "main" types of dwarfism You name one as -- pituitary ---- being "hereditary" and go on to say that another type, "non-proportional" is "genetic"!!! I had no idea they were different; I always felt something that was inherited was -- inherited from genes!! What other way is there?? I'm lost. Also you had mentioned your dog was "retarded" because it took quite a while for him to be housebroken, I'd say just as in the other growth factors you mentioned, slow maturing. Not that the dog was mentally ill, just slow in developing, since you say he did learn (here's a pun, -- perhaps the slowness could be due to the "Trainer" --- just kidding here, couldn't resist it) Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: "LEE SMITH" <ladyaramis1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <lfossland@xxxxxxx>; <KensLandscape@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: dwarf I had a dwarf GSD that I considered my own little angel. There are two main types of dwarfism -- pituitary, when is heriditary and non-proportaional dwarfism, which is genetic. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================