I sent this private since I thought that is what she wanted. However, after reading how much better David and Flower Boy answered, I decided to send it to the List for the three people who still read my posts. Fair is how someone feels about the results. Dog shows are fair if you enjoy them, but unfair if they make you miserable. It is a personal approach and the results may be different to different people. If you go to the show to have a good time, and you do, that is fair. If you go to win, and don't that may or may not be unfair, it depends on how it makes you feel. If by fair you mean, honest or dishonest, then a different question is being asked. An honest show is one where the judge does what he or she feels is right, win or lose. A dishonest show is where the judging is not based on what the judge believes is correct, but for another reason. A judge may be prejudiced by who owns a dog, or what the past record is, that would be dishonest and unfair. Before you decide what fair is, you have to determine what you are asking? It is always fair to go to the show, expecting a good time. Then, it is up to you how it turns out. For me, I love the shows, and the results are a bonus. It is always fair to me, but that is how I chose to make it. I hope this is of some help to you, and it is how I see "fair" as an attorney. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================