> and I also watch the dogs that are in the ring. Do they have a good > front,back, are they clean in the rear, temperament, their gait, > I see what happens, I know who the person is, if they are there, > that is the > person who is going to win, no matter what. > I know about all the advertising that goes on, > Not every one can afford to advertise , every week, or every > month, > if you have money, does that mean you have a good dog? NOT !!!! > Too bad the judges see who is handling the dog > If the judges didn't see a face behind the dog, > In my opinion, the dog would win, not the handler. > Thanks > Christina Ordinarily, I am too busy to read all the posts and respond, but today, I am stuck.... 2 feet of snow, roads closed, job site shut down and I am relegated to setting at home!!!! The dogs are having a ball in the snow and the puppies are pretending they are big dogs. Christina, we started showing with several other couples, many years ago now. All of the others are no longer showing. There were several reasons they quit: 1. Some did not believe in double handling - it annoyed them. 2. Some did not like professional handlers, and claimed that is why other won. 3. Some did not think judges should also be exhibitors. 4. Some felt that the powerful, influential and rich always dominated the game. I did not know anyone - I was not socially connected. I am certainly not rich, I was the worst double handler around, I handled myself (oh Lord, you should see the videos), and, unlike my friends that started at the same time, I did not think everything was "political." The difference was, I won. Now I am not sure how my friends perceived my winning. Possibly they thought the judge was taking pity on a poor old man with two left feet. Possibly they thought I was a favored professional handler <BEG>. I do remember our first reserve from the 6-9 puppy class. The judge was laughing like crazy and when handing me the ribbon said, "I love your dog but you need a lot of help!!!" When I exited the ring there was a group of people consoling one another and I overheard, "Guess who's sleeping with the judge?" "No, there's money being passed under the table, that's for sure!" Etc., etc... I walked proudly away knowing that I did not know the judge, couldn't even spell "BRIBBE" and was simply lucky enough to have a good dog who did well that day. Last year we finished two dogs in the US, three in Canada, had 2 Canadian Selects (one a select #3), a Can Futurity Victrix, BOF, and on... I am looking at two new puppies that promise to keep us showing for a while. My friends are still breeding on their dogs that did not win and advertising them as being better than the dumb, ugly show dogs. I still contend that winning is the end result of an attitude, an effort and a plan. There may be times when the judge is insecure and goes with the handler. There may be times when friendships influence the judgment in the ring. And, yes, we do use handlers now, as I grow older, but now they ask to take our dogs - we do not have to beg. But by and large, the rewards of life are not arbitrary, they are the end result of the purposed attitude. Now, I hope this darn snow melts off and the show season gets up and running. I'm excited to get out there and have some more fun. Dave ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================