Hi - now hearing from the OTHER Norma -- We will never be normal - the L is missing - but who does -- we are definitely different not that there's anything wrong with that My first bitch (GSD ever) was a sable. I still love the sable. The stripe is there and goes from shoulder to tail, not around the body. It is thick and certainly all of the above will change. I had a book years ago - somebody borrowed it and -- The sable is original and called agouti and as we does remind one of a wolf coloring. I may have sent my color post a few weeks ago just to a few, but here is some knowledge I'll share as I see it --- FYI I have never had liver or blue. I would probably faint dead away -- same with white! AKC and or PC - which ever - allowing these 3 disqualifying things to be an Ok deal by having them registered in recent years puzzled me. I was told it was to check on bloodline combos to eliminate same - or what ever. I've shared the white boxer not registerable deal with folks. Then in a more thoughtful way - did you ever see a spotted Irish Setter, or a red English Setter --- Yikes 2 different breeds but very little difference -- except coat and a more stocky build for the English as the seemingly sleek one of the Irish. The reason for this - is, like I said with the Black & Red Angus Cattle - Only in America -- Love ya'll nr ----- Original Message ----- From: <PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx> To: <NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:23 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: color of puppies > In a message dated 11/20/2004 10:21:24 PM Central Standard Time, > NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > > sometimes we call sables that strange color.they are born tan with black > > stripes > > Guess you never had a sable baby....and whos "WE" that calls them a strange > color. Been breeding over 25 yrs...have had a lot of sables and never heard > them referred to as "strange color". Oh, sables are born dark not tan with black > stripes, sounds like your referring to a tiger. Norma do you say the things > you do just to be controversial?? > > Patty Szymczak > > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================