In a message dated 2/17/05 12:36:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: ON the subject of training. The smartest dog in the world is the Border Collie. The dumbest the Afghan. Paul opines... Norma's 2nd point is definitely true but we're not sure on da foist. Reason is...we can't get them away from their therapists long enough to test em'. Hey now! I was going to stay out of it until Paul took it to a personal level :-) Ch. Cassie's bestest buddy in the whole world is her "step" brother, Border Collie Radar. He has NO bizarre behaviors and is really much easier to live with in the house than my Golden Retriever AND many GSDs that have lived with me (not naming names :-) ). Radar is truly BRILLIANT. More than being really smart, tho, he's VERY BIDDABLE. You show him something and he says, "Okay! How fast, how high, and how many times?". You say, "Leave me alone." He says "OKAY!". You say, "Lie down". He says, "OKAY!". When Cassie was in season they were both interested in making Border Shepherds. I told him to get those nasty thoughts out of his teenage mind and go play agility or herding. He said, "Okay!" Well, so he was more reluctant to say "okay" that time, but the point is that he still left her alone -- although I am smart enough that I didn't trust them together for an instant....and my son was threatened with neutering (both the son AND Radar) if Cassie had Border Shepherds. Everyone who has met Radar has loved him....yes, even you Lew :-) Radar is like the kind of kid that is polite to everybody, is a straight A student, volunteers in the community, and is a star athlete. I'm trying to figure out how to make my human kids turn out 1/2 as nice as this dog. Maybe the kid's pedigrees weren't as good... Really, Paul, if you met Radar, you'd love him. Jennifer would work him ONCE and then steal him. He's an awesome herding dog and my, oh my, you should see the outruns he's doing now.... Julie Degen & RADAR the Border Collie & CH. Cassie ("Don't you be talking bad about my bro") ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================