border collie IQ Hey now! I was going to stay out of it until Paul took it to a personal level :-) Paul adds... It was a joke folks...a joke. Geez...get a grip. God put the Border Collie on this planet to herd sheep, do agility, play fly ball, and damn near anything else they wanna do...and...they do it better than most. Since we own a Boarding Kennel and board many...(good ones and da udders)...I still wouldn't wanna live with one. I don't believe "time out" is a phrase in their vocabulary. Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================